Yoda can say that all he wants, but until one of these writers shows a Jedi being as powerful as Maul in TCW or Vader in JFO/RO, there’s no reason to believe the light side is as powerful. Luke Skywalker is Vader's son, and he clearly demonstrates that he is more powerful than his father during the climactic scene of Return of the Jedi. (1) Grandmaster Luke: nuff said. If this is true, Luke is, by default, stronger than his father in terms of midichlorians. luke gets the edge in force powers. No. All Lucas was saying is that Luke would eventually be stronger than Sidious - that's not quite the same thing as saying "zOMG, FULL POTENTIAL LUKE = ANAKIN!". I'd also like to point out that Lucas said Anakin had twice the potential as he did after Mustafar. Just like the Force was stronger with Yoda than with random Jedi #1138, and it was stronger with that Jedi than it was with random Stormtrooper Bob. In Return of the Jedi, Anakin aka Darth Vader, defeats the emperor. Despite Yoda's brainwashing of Luke on Dagobah, the Dark Side is also shown to be more powerful according to main Disney canon, as in any direct confrontation between Light and Dark side, the Dark side worn on sheer power (Yoda vs. Sidious, especially as shown in the Novelization where they note Yoda openly admitting to himself he was outclassed). Luke can't run that fast, so it's not like he is going to blitz her. He’s a man who is gripped by the forces of evil and the cause of death for millions. Luke's powers are then "redoubled" in JA, and in BFC Luke exclaims "The stronger you become in the Force, the more that you can do, the more that's expected of you" indicating he is stronger than before. A basic explanation of the fight between Yoda and Darth Sidious, with my reasoning to why Yoda was the more powerful combatant at the time. Anakin is at his best when channeling his own anger. BobaFrank, Dec 6, 2002 #1. Yoda gives Luke a simple answer because he does not feel Luke is ready to face all the complexities of the Force. Luke’s approach toward Baby Yoda is that of a teacher or childcare expert. Who is stronger than Darth Vader? User account menu. First studious ran away from yoda then in the senate yoda actually disarmed him that’s why sidous threw the discs. Not many people have realised that Mace Windu was a more powerful Jedi that Yoda. And to take it further. Anakin > Emperor. Luke’s approach toward Baby Yoda is that of a teacher or childcare expert. Yoda feels Luke cannot. Emperor > Yoda. So, trained right. implies. As an irrellevant answer, it depends on what terms of strength they both have. Log In Sign Up. Question: Is Qui Gon Jinn Stronger Than Yoda? 0. Joined Sep 16, 2011 Messages 3,330 Reaction score 1,471 Location … what i mean is this- darth vader is stronger than yoda in a fight, has a higher medichlorian count most (they reveal this in episode one) sith lords are usually always stronger than jedi 1v1, but there are more jedi than sith lords. So is rey stronger in the force than Yoda? Sidious was trained for a bit by the Jedi, though I will admit I am not clear on the details. I don't see how Luke defeating these extremely dangerous Dark Troopers isn't more impressive than Vader killing 5-8 Rebels in RO. Darth Guy Chosen One. Registered: Aug … Luke does have pre cog, so he probably does have better reaction speeds than Wanda, but that doesn't really matter. -_-Well, Hayden did say that Galen is supposed to be a dark anti-thesis of Luke and that he is what Luke would've been if he had joined Vader or had been raised by Vader. His knowledge and experience are what make him powerful and able to take on the good ol’ Emperor if they ever faced each other again. A Jedi Master like Mace Windu, with great training and control, can skirt the edges of the Dark Side. Known as the Dark Lord and one of the Dark Side’s most heinous criminals, it’s easy to see why most of the galaxy far, far away feared the man once known as Anakin Skywalker. Most of His Midi-chlorians( Force cells ) were destroyed in the fight with obi-wan. Registered: Jul 17, 2001. Yoda is about as powerful a Jedi as we saw, and he was old and wise and had a lot of training, but maybe the Force was just plain stronger with Sidious. And on top of all of this, Luke's rage-amp would boost him significantly in a similar way against Vader. Including Kylo." Is Luke truly the strongest or was it Vergere, or to be bold, Jacen? Against a man 10x his size in his prime and even still yoda overpowered him. And even this isn't enough. in sayin that its probably darth vader for he is the father of luke and is a sith lord. Search for: Home » QA. real demand. Luke never dueled anybody with anger in their eyes until he faces Vader, now an old man, and loses his hand. Stronger than Luke?! Also I don’t get people saying sidious is stronger than yoda. I also think that's why in ROTJ he's so adamant to tell Luke … 95 year-old Obi-Wan fared better against Vader than did Luke. General Discussion. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > BobaFrank Jedi Youngling. Darth Vader’s Strengths. Sure, he might have some sentimental feelings about Baby Yoda, considering how … Amazon. Ben does, too. You had a yoda way past his prime unable to walk without the force. but yoda is stronger in other aspects. luke is blessed by the force from the Skywalker line, and have had both Yoda and Kenobi as teachers. Posted by 1 year ago. And that is true, Yoda fought Dooku in Attack of the Clones and fought an epic saber duel against Palpatine himself. that is why yoda went into exile, and he didnt go kill darth vader. (3) Darth Sidious: could arguably stalemate Yoda or even beat him, especially by the time of ROTJ and DE. MysterioMaximus. User Info: TEzeon431. (2) Anakin Skywalker: said to be on Yoda and Palpatine’s tier, according to George Lucas. Kenobi is powerful, yes, but Luke & Yoda were always the strongest. Apparently this writer failed to see Obi-Wan get his butt handed to him not once, but twice by Count Dooku, and he "needed the high ground" to defeat Anakin, who, along with Mace Windu, would also have been stronger Jedi. “Why does Yoda say to Obi-Wan, in the end of Revenge of the Sith, that his old master (Qui-Gon Jinn) has found a path to immortality?” First of all, Yoda didn’t say that. Anakin > Yoda. If he knew he was the stronger force-user, he would've got right back into the ring for round 2, but he was totally spent and admitted defeat. Luke is on the defensive against Vader until he taps into his anger. So it follows. luke relies on TK, force imbued and precognition to, yet he has shown that he will use force choke and being able to shake a star destroyers puts his capabilities above anything Ashoka has done. Yoda's teaching in The Empire Strikes Back-- summarized by the quote "Size matters not" -- seemed to indicate that scale was never truly important when using the Force, and yet Jedi seem to struggle to a greater degree when telekinetically moving larger objects than small ones. Not only that, but Yoda straight up admits defeat and buggers off to Dagobah. TEzeon431 3 weeks ago #12. Contents. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. Yoda was a bad ass - we saw him take on Count Dooku and the Emperor! So why would he have changed it to double? Darth_Glentract. Was he stronger than Yoda? o_0 lol... no. How so? Despite being confined to a less-than-fully-mobile suit, Vader seems to be quite a bit more formidable than before he fell to the Dark Side. This can't be true. The Emperor is stronger than even Yoda or Mace Windu. 0. After an intense duel under the chuckling gaze of Emperor Palpatine, Luke has bested his father using his lightsaber. you never know, he could've been as powerful, if not more because of his knowledge of the dark side. When CBR posted an article explaining why they believe Rey is stronger than Anakin and Luke Skywalker, John Boyega (Finn) shared the article on social media with the caption, "I'm sorry guys but Anakin slapping all of us in a pit of lava. When Yoda showed Luke that he could lift his X-Wing because he believed it, but that didn’t mean he could have done it, but that made Luke believe that the Size of the Problem it’s not about the Baby Yoda I like Whataburger more than people shirt Story and it’s the first step for him to believe in the Force. Close. Anakin > Emperor > Yoda. Archived. Luke is old for a Padawan, emotional, and fixated on battling Vader. His lightsaber skills aren't too great, as seen in the movies. You’ve got to admit, Yoda has definitely had more than enough time to hone his skills and face a multitude of adversaries, making him a well-trained and seasoned fighter. So 160% before. Yoda in Attack of the clones: Struggles to lift a piece of falling roof and a column Rey in The last Jedi: Rey lifts 362827372 boulders at the same … Press J to jump to the feed. Although, with the Expanded universe being declared non-canon, we don't have much to play on. 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